We bought these holds when we opened our new location. The feedback we have gotten from our setters and the community is that the holds are very uncomfortable. The facets are too sharp and the lips on some of the jugs are kinda narrow. The holds are aesthetic and the duel tex is nice if you place them vertically but I would not buy them again. If you are looking for a dual tex pinch line with a wide range of positivity there are better options.